I have your 66's cousin - a 66-1 4", which is my favorite shooter! of TrailBoss), (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), (bullets seated deeper = higher pressures) (I dont recommend lead at over 900 Cheers! CCI Primers - Per 1000. Unique is a good powder to start with. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. It has shot superbly in S & W "N"-frames of 4, 5, and 6".. and also in a Marlin M1894SC .357Mag . California Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Id like to make the case that everyone who loves shooting should have a place in their safe and on their shelves for a .357 Magnum firearm and ammunition. 7, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company WMR, 760, 748, 231, 296 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. CCI primers. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. The versatility of loads for the .357 cartridge means that it excels as an all-purpose handgun round, suitable for just about every shooting activity imaginable: For recreational shooting, full-tilt .357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. of True Blue, a WSPM and a 125 gr. can be cranked up a bit in velocity with jacketed bullets for a flatter trajectory in longer-distance shooting and hunting small . In these, I like to load a 130 grain lead flat point bullet over a charge of 700X that shoots to point of aim. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. The aforementioned 180 grain lead bullet will give you a definite advantage, especially in bowling pin shooting, while keeping the costs controllable. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. For midrange loads I use Power Pistol, and for full magnum loads I use 2400. . Then use whatever you can find cheap for 38 special right now. Back. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! MV is 1360 fps and the ME is 575 ft. lbs. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: I'll load a few trips to the range worth and see how it goes. By focusing on using it for multiple roles, you can save a lot on organization and components, not to mention guns, and youre not likely to miss a beat in efficiency or enjoyment. Below, are three loaded rounds. If you do use Titegroup, be aware that it is a particularly compact powder. 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JHP, 125 gr. full loads. I use both bullseye and 231 for 38 special. Deployed military should use stateside address. Sure. If it's a hunting load or full power defense load your after, a slower powder designed for magnums will give you more versatility. Note: A full Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Unless one goes into abnormally dangerous areas or situations, many people, like me, are willing to sacrifice some power for day-to-day comfort. Optimal accuracy? More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. These will give you some versatility with power levels from medium to heavy magnum loads and they work well in several calibers. Get Guns.com offers and news!! , to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Contest open to U.S. residents only. 32 H&R Magnum. Stay in the know. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. At the VERY least, use a copper Gas Check lead bullet or a copper plated bullet. I'd like to shoot a few hundred rounds before I do that. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. use hot loads). Lead bullets are great for such high-volume shooting. Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. My ammo doesn't only go in S&W firearms, there are a few other brands that I have so, I have to watch what I reload. . IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Berry does not recommend running these over 1250 FPS, but all the 357 mag base loads are above 1250 FPS. Buffalo Bore offers a hard-hitting, high-velocity 180-grain JHP loading well-suited to taking deer-sized game at 50 yards or so. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. Deployed military should use stateside address. (There are some loads for a 90 gr. I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. (Photo: Andy C). Both sports demand power and accuracy, so a combination of a heavy lead bullet, slow powder, and a longer barrel will be a benefit. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. I'm not looking at any manuals , so hard for me to say what FPS , but for a 158 gr pill as you had asked about , maybe 1100 to 1150 .?? Great powder for the heaviest .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. For the most part, I use the same loads in .357 Magnum leverguns as I do in sixguns chambered for the same cartridge. (Photo: Andy C). Heavy Is Accurate. Like they say, this is close enough for government work. The Handgun Reloading Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Newer magnum cartridges eventually surpassed it in power, but Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. With Titegroup, say in 45ACP, you most likely could even put a triple charge in that case, I would be afraid of using it in any larger case. SAFETY DATA SHEET. That's not what you asked at all. grain bullets are the top choices for personal defense against "bad the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. 28 gauge. The benefits of this are twofold. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? . (I) Giveaway ends February 28, 2023. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. Free shipping for many products! While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. 231,100% burnt at 1.85 inches of barrel length. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. MLittle. This is not John Waynes revolver it is a modern work of art! 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This is super-low recoiling, and in a relatively heavy gun like a S&W 686, you may find shorter split times than the autoloader shooters. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hornady XTP HP's is Accurate Arms #9 powder. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The loads are not updated yearly. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. My favorite powder for .357 Mag with 158 gr. I want something that best suits a newbie to reloading. HP38 is a spherical powder that is great for low velocity and mid-range target loads in the .38 Special, .44 Special, and 45 ACP. Hodgdon - 700-X. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. Contest open to U.S. residents only. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. If you had 2400 or similar powder you would be set up perfect for magnum lead loads. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. If handgun hunting is your thing, or you want to carry a revolver for protecting from four-legged predators in the wild, the FTX bullet doesnt provide as much benefit as it does in a rifle. Clays OR 5.0 gr. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. Ive never seen a 90-grain load in a store. Problem is I am using 125 gn flat nose Berry's (plated) bullets. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Flexibility of the .357 Mag. All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). Becoming one of my favorite powders for .32 and .38 revolvers. Jul 7, 2011. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. Theres load data for pretty much all of them in 38 special. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. 07-24-2009, 06:32 PM #12. claybird. The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. References: 2009 Hodgdon Website .357 Magnum loads Accurate Arms Co. 1996 This powder has a low bulk density so it fills the case well to reduce free space in the same way as Trail Boss. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. It has a steel core and will pierce an When customers ask us which powder is the best, the short answer is always "it depends!" . check out the. their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 You are using an out of date browser. We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: I get similar results with the same bullet and 4 to 4.5 grains of W231. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: unique seems to work for all my handgun loads. gunmans right on i have used the old stand by blue dot for mag loads back when i loaded a lot of 357 mag. . Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X . These are good full power hunting loads. The faster it burns after ignition, the less unburnt powder and "muzzle flash" on shorter-barreled guns, and quicker velocity attainment on longer-barreled ones. First time using lead cast bullets. These bullets have a cannelure. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Addeddate 2019-02-28 05:18:26 Identifier CompleteReloadingManualForThe357Magnum2004 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t22c6j49s Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. Winchester #209 777 Primers - 100-Pack. Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. I tried 2205 in a 9 3/4" Ruger Super Red Hawk and there was lots of unburnt powder, it . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. You can get some rounds with wallop from a manufacturerbut itll cost you. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the bore, but its better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. Today, you can take your pick of outstanding hollowpoint or expanding-point bullets. Any .357 Magnum revolver No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: Lets just say midway tween low and high , In my opinion the K frames just aren't stout enuf for a steady diet of high pressure stuff. flatnose hard cast bullet. a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. I have found Winchester W231 In 1935, Smith & Wesson introduced the .357 Magnum. The .357 remains the best selling of It's a very fast powder so there's not alot of room between starting and max loads. No. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. 6.4 gr. Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: Not bad for jacketed either, but wont launch em near as fast as 2400 or H110. Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure. I just checked my powders, and I have way too much Bullseye, and only a fair amount of 2400. Big enough that components can be easily handled, small enough not to need special gear, and common enough to be inexpensive. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. Your mileage may vary. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Historically .357 Mag. Contest open to U.S. residents only. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. But for my money no other cartridge does as much as well as the .357 magnum. Its one of the few handgun loads short of a 44 magnum that may deter a bear; it will do more than that to wolves, hogs or large cats. I don't want to blow myself up right away. While visiting a gun shop south of us a year or so ago they recommended against 2400. These two have always worked best for me. Theres not a whole lot under the size of a deer that cant be taken using some .357 Magnum load. In addition, WW 296 would have . 357 Armour Piercing(no longer legal or available), 160 gr. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. Any suggestions? The .357 Magnum: Most Versatile Handgun Round Ever? Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. Shooters have been arguing for nearly 85 years as to whether the .357 Magnum is suitable for use on deer. The Browning was dropped in 1986 but the Marlin and Rossi remain and we also have the .357 Magnum available in both 1873 and 1892 Winchesters, the Henry Big Boy and for a while, Ruger even offered their bolt action, five-shot, stainless steel Model 77/357. They are all determined experimentally. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected.